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Poster: lobster12 Date: Jan 12, 2012 3:04pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Foolish heart revisted

Awhile back I put forth the idea that Foolish could have/should have been another Terrapin in terms of second set placement and other tunes jamming into to it before drums, ect. I found this interesting version from 1991. Surprised I never knew about it before. This is kinda what I had in mind when I made that original statement. Clocks in at almost 20 minutes. For those who don't dig FH or Terrapin for that matter it might not be that interesting but for those Foolish fans I'd love to get your take.

http://www.archive.org/details/gd1991-04-09.Nak300CP4.Floater.Keo.113168.Flac2496

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Poster: august_wst Date: Jan 13, 2012 11:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish heart revisted

Never did like Gruelish Fart. I always felt it was melodically too repetitive. Of course it always seemed to get good reception when they played it so I think I may have been in the minority, but I knew they could do a lot better.

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Poster: MEH8008 Date: Jan 13, 2012 4:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish heart revisted

Amazing that you posted this thread. I had never been a FH fan until I saw DSO play the 10/8/89 version last month. Went back and listened to some other FH's from that era and have been lovin it.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 12, 2012 4:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish heart revisted

I like the idea of Foolish Heart a lot. It's the explosive moment of joy following the first jam when Jerry leads back into the final verse, and to a lesser extent the clarion call of the opening notes. I saw the first (6-22-88) and one of the best (3-19-90).

I like how everyone plays lines around the one. A game of hot potato when it gets going. Nobody drop it! And for some performances there are large stretches when they didn't. But, there was always something nagging at it.

The lyrics, which are manageable, would have blown entrances or exits or worse, Fozzie just making you hold on till the first jam. Or a lackluster effort by the band (Phil must be on for this song to work), especially post vocals. A nit here, a pick there. We never got The one.

Onto lobster's pick. I changed sources to (http://tinyurl.com/7rveth7). lobster why did you go w/ the AUD? (just curious). It's very cluttered after the first minute. Everyone seems to be trying. Vince needed to be turned down in the mix, but that really doesn't need to be said anymore I think. Even w/ the source I went with (and I checked them all) no awards will be given for the recording. Finally, it's Fozzie time w/ a few blown lyrics included.

O.K., now that the unpleasant notes are gone through, the good stuff. The very beginning is nimble as everyone is finding a place. Phil is present and accounted for. The first mimi-jam is good and I like Bobby's little flourishes. Once the vocals are cleared we get a long meandering jam that is interesting at times, most of all towards the end.

To your question lobster, I do not like the placement. I always liked three; first set opener, first set closer or second set opener. It needs to be contained in a song (9 to 11 minutes) as it doesn't have the power post vocals. It can sound an awful like CF then, but the energy and time to make it a bigger song never seems to have been put in.

btw- Is this the longest Foolish Heart?

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Jan 12, 2012 11:40pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish heart revisited

Check out 3/20/91 - Huge Eyes into Foolish to start set 2.

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Poster: RBNW....new and improved! Date: Jan 12, 2012 3:16pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish heart revisted

Another great song not about John Belushi!!

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Poster: Styrofoam Cueball Date: Jan 12, 2012 7:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Foolish heart revisted

lol!


I always thought Foolish Heart -> Franklin's Tower would be a good segue, as they are so incredibly similar, musically.